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Jason Reza Jorjani is a philosopher and UFO researcher who argues that the phenomenon cannot be understood through a purely “nuts and bolts” lens or a purely consciousness-based lens alone — both are necessary, and the deepest implications are sociological and political rather than merely metaphysical.
- He warns that overly abstract, unfalsifiable “meta-interpretations” of UFOs (e.g., the Kantian “thing in itself”) can function as a psychological defense mechanism, allowing researchers to avoid confronting deeply disturbing but tangible realities about power, control, and human history.
- The conversation spans Kant’s suppression of Swedenborg’s psychic and extraterrestrial accounts, Descartes as a possible Jesuit agent tasked with constructing a mechanistic science that would leave spiritual authority to the Church, and the modern parallels in how the UAP conversation is being shaped and contained.
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Jorjani argues that mainstream scientific recognition of psi abilities (telepathy, clairvoyance, psychokinesis) would constitute an “institutional apocalypse” — collapsing privacy, destabilizing legal systems, and threatening every existing power structure.
- He notes that psi effects can be weaponized (the Soviets experimented with psychically stopping animal hearts; the US had black units exploring lethal PK), and that even the skeptics at psi experiments measurably suppress results through a “negative psi effect.”
- He frames the coming “spectral revolution” as fundamentally different from prior scientific revolutions (Copernican, Darwinian) because it requires insight into the psychological mechanisms that frame paradigms themselves — not just a new paradigm, but understanding that all scientific models are toolkits for specific ends, not mirrors of objective reality.
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Jorjani’s central historical thesis: human history is shaped by a conflict between two factions of beings that religious traditions have recorded as gods versus rebel angels (Elohim vs. Nephilim, Devas vs. Asuras, Olympians vs. Titans, the serpent in Eden vs. Yahweh).
- The “Promethean” rebel faction (Enki, Prometheus, Quetzalcoatl) repeatedly attempts to elevate humanity through knowledge and technology; the “Olympian” or “Elohim” faction repeatedly resets human civilization to maintain a hierarchical control system — a master-slave dialectic that Hegel and Marx analyzed in human terms but which Jorjani argues operates on a civilizational scale.
- He reads the Atlantis narrative (Plato’s Timaeus and Critias) as the most compelling account of this rebellion: a demigod technocracy that sought to lift humanity to parity with the gods, stopped sacrificing to them, and was destroyed by a global flood — the same flood as Noah’s.
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The Black Plague is presented as a key example of engineered civilizational regression: Jorjani cites William Bramley’s research showing that UFOs were sighted landing in European fields before the plague, and that hooded figures (the origin of the Grim Reaper iconography) sprayed fields and door-to-door in towns, after which plague broke out — a biological attack that derailed an incipient Renaissance and drove populations back into religious fundamentalism.
- He notes that immediately before the Renaissance, broadsheets from Basel and Nuremberg documented massive aerial battles between triangular craft and colored spheres — which he interprets as the rebel faction fighting to open space for human intellectual rebirth.
- The Jesuit order then attempted to capture and redirect Renaissance energies through figures like Descartes, whose mechanistic dualism reduced the physical world to dead matter while leaving spiritual discourse under Church monopoly.
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Jorjani draws on remote viewing data (Ingo Swann, Joe McMoneagle) and physical evidence (Carl Wolf’s NSA testimony, John Brandenburg’s xenon-129 analysis) to argue that the moon is an artificial structure built by the same tall Nordic-looking beings who once had a civilization on Mars.
- Ingo Swann remote-viewed the dark side of the moon and saw a megalithic city with Nordic-looking overseers and enslaved human laborers; Carl Wolf saw mosaic photographs of the same city in the 1960s at an NSA facility.
- The moon’s anomalous properties (perfect eclipse ratio, uniformly shallow craters revealing a hard convex shell, “ringing like a bell” after Apollo impacts, unusually stable orbit) are consistent with a hollow artificial satellite.
- He argues the moon was constructed as both a transport vessel for a large population migrating from Mars and as a terraforming/stabilizing device for Earth — slowing Earth’s rotation, stabilizing its axis, and making the planet habitable for humans.
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The “Nordics vs. Grays” narrative is likely a deliberate deception: Jorjani argues the grays are cybernetic robots under Nordic control, and the good-cop/bad-cop framing is a bait-and-switch to position the Nordics as humanity’s saviors.
- Cases like Travis Walton and Betty Andreasson Luca show grays handling abductees initially, then Nordics taking over — with the Nordics claiming to be the “angels” who brought Christ and will bring him back, while the grays serve as a mass surveillance system recording every human deed.
- He traces this narrative back to 1950s Italy (Bruno Samachicia) and argues it is designed to lure humanity into accepting the Nordics as benevolent overlords.
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Jorjani addresses the timescale problem (how can the same beings appear on Mars millions of years ago and in human historical epochs) by arguing these are time-traveling humans from the future — a breakaway civilization with a “fifth-dimensional” relationship to spacetime.
- Electrogravitic/zero-point energy propulsion inherently produces time dilation and time displacement; Jorjani cites personal testimony from Lyn Buchanan about a black facility where the US government was training pilots to fly recovered or reverse-engineered UFOs and struggling with the time-displacement effects.
- This means the continuity of Nordic phenotype and megalithic architectural style across millions of years is not linear biological continuity but hyperdimensional intervention by a future human faction.
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He speculates that “reptilians” may be lab-created hybrids — the Nordics’ earlier attempts at engineering a slave race by crossbreeding themselves with dinosaurs before settling on Homo sapiens, paralleling the Sumerian myths of the Anunnaki creating multiple failed human prototypes.
- The Anunnaki in Sumerian texts are, in Jorjani’s view, as literally real as the Olympian gods in Greek literature — the debate is over translation details (e.g., whether “shem” means rocket), not over whether these beings existed and created humans as a servant race.
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Jorjani identifies two distinct sources of UAP phenomena, which are commonly conflated: (1) the Nordic control system operating physical craft, and (2) a radically different source expressing the “trickster archetype” — bizarre, reality-glitch events that suggest our world is a programmed construct.
- Skinwalker Ranch incidents (a camera being physically dismantled in the fraction of a second between frames of another camera, with no disturbance to nearby cattle) look like someone “cut into the film” of reality and restitched it.
- John Keel’s Men in Black cases, the Mothman/Point Pleasant bridge collapse, and cases where drowning victims heard numbers spoken to them (3004, 3486) suggest a Matrix-like structure where people have assigned numbers.
- He traces an intellectual lineage from Claude Shannon’s information theory → Ralph Landauer’s insight that erasing data releases energy (meaning data has mass) → John Archibald Wheeler’s “it from bit” (matter and energy are different states of information) → the conclusion that we live inside a quantum computational system.
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The “information catastrophe” hypothesis (Melvin Vopson, building on Landauer): all stored data has a tiny mass (currently ~1 kg globally), but at 25% annual growth, in ~340 years data centers will accumulate a moon’s worth of mass on Earth’s surface, causing geological catastrophe — suggesting we are approaching a fundamental limit or transition point.
- Jorjani connects this to Conrad Zuse (Nazi computer scientist, Turing’s predecessor) who first proposed we might be living in a “calculating space” and theorized that nuclear detonations — as extreme high-entropy events — could reveal the “mesh” of the matrix.
- This, he argues, is why the one consistent message Nordics give to all contactees is nuclear disarmament — not out of ecological concern, but because nuclear explosions threaten to expose the simulated nature of reality, which would undermine their control system.
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Jorjani’s “world state of emergency” framework (developed in his book Prometheism) describes three converging crises: the end of humanity (genetic engineering, cybernetic integration, AI augmentation blurring the boundary of human existence), the end of history (time travel enabling hyperdimensional manipulation of historical epochs, raising the question of whether the master-slave dialectic will be permanently entrenched or overthrown), and the end of reality (the discovery that physics is computational and that we may be inside a managed simulation).
- He argues the superintelligence managing our simulacrum (which he associates with the trickster archetype) wants humanity to break free of the Nordic control system but cannot do it for us — our value to it lies in the novelty and creativity we can produce, which requires that we struggle autonomously.
- Disclosure will not happen until the Nordic power structure is dismantled; any disclosure we get before then will be disinformation designed to reinforce the control system (he cites Trump’s failed disclosure promises as an example of forces above the presidency preventing it).
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On Epstein and Maxwell: Jorjani argues they were connected to the UFO phenomenon through a fixation on electrogravitics, Atlantis, and eugenics — specifically a breeding program at Zoro Ranch aimed at producing genetically enhanced Nordic-type humans.
- Epstein hosted conferences of the world’s top gravity researchers, took scientists including Stephen Hawking on submarine expeditions to study gravitational anomalies in the Bermuda Triangle, and had keycard access to Harvard’s evolutionary dynamics program (eugenic applications of biotechnology).
- Glenn Maxwell’s father Robert Maxwell (MI6/KGB/Mossad triple agent) gatekept scientific discoveries through Pergamon Press; Glenn herself was obsessed with Atlantis from childhood (her father was friends with Jacques Cousteau, who admitted his oceanographic work was driven by finding Atlantis), dove on suspected Atlantean sites off Cuba with Epstein, and had a temple to Poseidon on Little St. James and a labyrinth shaped like Atlantis at Zoro Ranch.
- The male live-in aides at Maxwell’s Manhattan townhouse were all young blonde Swedish men, and their hair was collected from bedsheets and bathrooms — suggesting genetic material was being harvested from both men and women as part of a eugenics project.
- Jorjani speculates they may have been either a “flytrap” funneling scientists into deeper black programs, or a rogue rebellion against the Nordic control system attempting to develop competitive technology — their grim fates (Epstein dead, Maxwell imprisoned) suggesting the latter.
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The 1950s contactees (George Van Tassel, George Hunt Williamson, George Adamski, Billy Meier) all promoted a racialist Nordic-supremacist cosmology — the idea that the “master race” came from space and lower races resulted from interbreeding with local hominids — and Jorjani documents their connections to Nazi networks, Lockheed, Howard Hughes, and postwar international fascist organizations.
- Van Tassel’s property had previously belonged to a Nazi operative (Frank Critzer) who died there in an explosion; Van Tassel worked for Lockheed and hosted Howard Hughes.
- George Hunt Williamson (born Mičel Dražinović, of Serbian royalty) was an editor for William Dudley Pelley’s fascist Silver Shirts magazine before becoming Adamski’s handler.
- Billy Meier (born Eduard Meier) was a James Bond-style intelligence operative in the Middle East before becoming a UFO contactee; Jorjani builds on Joseph Farrell’s research to suggest Meier was an operative of a postwar international Nazi network and introduced Nordic-looking beings to Arab leaders.
- Jorjani notes the recurring “George” pseudonym among contactees and connects it to the Indo-European root “gorga” (wolf) and the Nazi “Werewolf” resistance — suggesting a coded signal.
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On Whitley Strieber: Jorjani reveals that Strieber’s father was military intelligence, that Strieber was subjected to mind-control experiments as a child at a summer camp at Randolph Air Force Base (a precursor to MKUltra involving psychological torture and dissociation), and that during his famous “communion” encounter, he saw military and intelligence personnel standing around the cabin — including a schoolmate who later joined the CIA — suggesting at least some of his experiences were products of an advanced mind-control program connected to UFO phenomenon management.
- Jorjani connects this to research on reincarnation and possession (Ian Stevenson’s work at the University of Virginia, Jim Tucker’s follow-up, and cases of “reincarnation splits” where one person reincarnates as multiple individuals) to argue that the psyche is not a unified indivisible self but a conglomerate of sub-personalities — making compartmentalization and weaponization through MKUltra-style techniques structurally plausible.
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Jorjani’s forthcoming book Thanosis (a contraction of Thanatos and gnosis) will be a comprehensive study of death, reincarnation, and possession phenomena, problematizing the distinction between reincarnation and possession through extensive case data.
- His published works discussed include Prometheus and Atlas (on the philosophical history of science and the construction of the Enlightenment world-picture), Closer Encounters (his encyclopedic study of the UFO phenomenon), and Prometheism (on the world state of emergency and the three converging crises of humanity, history, and reality).
“Aliens Invented Religion To Control Humanity!” -Top Philosopher Jason Jorjani
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