Bestselling Author Gives His Best Writing Advice (David Sedaris Interview)

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Bestselling Author Gives His Best Writing Advice (David Sedaris Interview)
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Summary

  • David Sedaris, bestselling humorist with over 16 million books sold and a 30-year New Yorker contributor, shares his unconventional path and craft philosophy: write privately for years without publishing pressure, observe relentlessly, read aloud to live audiences as your primary editor, and build a career on being unapologetically yourself.

Writing vs. publishing: separate tracks, different timetables

  • Sedaris kept a diary from age 20, didn’t take a writing class until 28, and felt zero pressure to publish early — he believed his teacher who said “just write and the rest will take care of itself.”
  • He distinguishes writing (a daily practice) from publishing (a later outcome) and never felt like a failure for having day jobs; he viewed limited writing hours as reason to keep a job, not quit.
  • His advice to young writers: “this is your time to suck… enjoy it and just use this time to take chances and to learn” — thinking about publishing at 20 means you’re on the wrong path.

Finding premises: the ridiculous hiding in plain sight

  • Pieces often start from a moment of self-awareness about his own absurd perspective — e.g., touring the Anne Frank House and thinking “we should move the kitchen here” while apartment-hunting in Paris.
  • He looks for situations where his “scanners are on” and he notices what others miss: a DMV clerk rejecting a mother for “protruding nipples,” a t-shirt reading “I wasn’t always a dick. Just kidding. Fuck you,” a post office conversation with a Sir Lancelot-haired clerk in Alabama.
  • The best material comes from saying yes to experiences others optimize away: going to the post office instead of using FedEx, striking up conversations, complimenting strangers’ nails or haircuts as entry points.

The diary system: capture now, curate later

  • Writes in his diary every morning; maintains a separate “diary guide” for observations that might be useful later — “loaded” moments rich with potential (the DMV nipple incident, the regenerating-nipple myth, decades of t-shirt slogans).
  • Keeping a diary teaches you what you’re actually interested in: early entries perform for an imagined reader; over time you drop the performance and write what genuinely catches your attention.
  • Observation is a muscle: walking the same block as another person yields completely different notebooks; his artist friend Ingred sees Margaret Atwood in a leaf fragment — “she can’t turn off her artistic self.”

Characters over people: thermostats, not thermometers

  • Good characters make good writing; good people don’t necessarily — his father was “a horrible person and a good character” (never wrong, confident buffoon); Hugh (his partner) is a good character because he’s responsible and uptight, a perfect foil.
  • Good characters: divisive, brash, less sensitive to social norms, “thermostats” who set the room’s energy rather than “thermometers” who reflect it; people who can’t read the room, offer unsolicited opinions, or make everything about themselves.
  • You don’t need to be funny yourself — “if you’re writing humor, all you need to know is some funny people. And you can quote them… you’re importing the laughs.”

Reading aloud to audiences: the ultimate editor

  • Audiences are his editor: their laughter, coughing, drifting attention, and silence tell him everything — pacing, rhythm, repeated words, false endings.
  • Reading to Hugh serves a different purpose: “a way of killing it” — he reads a paragraph, Hugh gets bored, Sedaris throws it away.
  • On stage, he can feel when an ending isn’t working: if he has to tamp down papers to signal the end, he failed; a real ending lands like a plane — smooth, inevitable, surprising.
  • He tests endings by type: emotional choke-up, big laugh, thoughtful silence — and structures shows to vary these “noises.”

Editing: many private drafts, then the editor

  • Does 15–17 drafts before sending to his New Yorker editor — “I’d rather give her the 15th and then we go two more” than bore her with early versions.
  • Looks for rhythm, pacing, momentum, humor, and an ending that feels earned; cuts anything “not worth the breath it takes to read it.”
  • Learned from radio: don’t populate the “stage” of the listener’s mind with names that don’t pay off (Chekhov’s gun for characters); economy of detail.

Performance craft: respect the audience’s attention

  • Index cards over sheets of paper: each card holds a full story beat with laugh lines, creating boom-boom-boom pacing; never let the audience see your page count.
  • Dress up — “proving to them that this meant something to you” — and rehearse; so much works against you (uncomfortable seats, phones, standing crowds), so control what you can.
  • Common mistakes: not rehearsing, acting like it’s a cold read, underdressing, showing the stack of pages.

Precision: specific beats generic, language without thesaurus

  • “Potato chip bag stuffed into a hollow of a tree. An elderly mitten caught in the embrace of a blackberry bush” — “embrace” beats “stuck” because it conveys the physical struggle of removal.
  • Not a fancy writer; admires poets but accepts his own voice — quick character sketches (mustache, unibrow, star-shaped pimple patch) let the reader see the speaker without a paragraph of description.
  • Real details beat invention: chicken thighs abandoned next to produce, a fingernail in an airplane seat cuff, a doll’s head in a seat pocket — “whatever it really is that’s in there is more interesting than anything I can make up.”

Essay vs. fiction: outrageous vs. real

  • His fiction veers completely over the top (woman shot 17 times, head falls off); he admires quiet realism (Anne Beattie) but can’t write it — “incapable of it.”
  • Non-fiction came via radio: NPR required truth, forcing him to learn in public — early radio pieces were “awful, awful,” like being a child actor.
  • Radio taught economy: don’t name six dinner guests if only two speak; the listener’s mind is a stage — don’t overcrowd it.

Actors reading his work: a special hell

  • Hates when actors overperform: slowing down for fake gravitas, adding French accents, highlighting jokes — “it makes you just hate what you wrote… it’s embarrassing.”
  • The problem is trying too hard for laughs; he did the same in early books — “nudging people in the ribs: Do you get it? Do you get it?” — took years to trust that silence ≠ disengagement.

Trusting the audience and planting bombs

  • Early on, he thought no laughter meant no listening; learned they listen even when quiet — “if they drift away, you can feel it.”
  • Plants “little bombs”: details that only pay off later if the audience stayed with him — if they laugh at the callback, he knows they tracked the setup.
  • Some setup is necessary (place-setting, description) but only for so long before coughing starts.

Humor toolkit: observation, word choice, restraint

  • Stretching truth used to be acceptable (Hunter S. Thompson, Mark Twain); James Frey/Oprah ended that — now humor is held to memoir standards.
  • Be a great observer: real grocery-store details (chicken thighs in the chip aisle, dropped items abandoned) beat invention; headphones are worse than phones for killing observation — they remove spatial awareness entirely.
  • Choose funnier words without looking like you used a thesaurus: avoid “feline creature,” “pussycat,” adverbs, lazy dialect (“gonna,” “gotta”) — “mark of an amateur.”
  • Put in the hours: wrote daily for 15 years before first book; read incessantly — “you’re going to learn so much from books… it’s not fair to expect people to read yours if you don’t read theirs.”
  • Friends are useless critics: they’re nice, they don’t read, they don’t know what the inside of a book looks like.
  • Recognize boring vs. interesting: “just cuz this happened to me doesn’t make it interesting” — if you’re boring someone, you should feel it.
  • Q&A “running mouth” on stage generates material: a riff on Blue Jays became his biggest laugh in a new essay — “I wouldn’t have got it at my desk.”

Flannery O’Connor’s compass

  • “Anybody who has survived his childhood has enough information about life to last him the rest of his days. If you can’t make something out of a little experience, you probably won’t be able to make it out of a lot. The writer’s business is to contemplate experience, not to be merged in it.”
  • O’Connor and Mavis Gallant are underrated as comic writers — “falling-out laughter,” not polite chuckling.

Self-expression as survival and strategy

  • Father tried to mold him (guitar lessons, be the life of the party); growing up gay in the 1960s–70s meant constant hiding — “the worst thing that could happen if anyone really knew you.”
  • Career built on “being completely myself… it never occurred to him that myself was a money maker.”
  • Peeling off layers over time; audience detects insincerity and virtue signaling instantly.
  • Willingness to take chances: moving to NYC, moving to Europe without the language, feeding crows daily until an essay emerges — “making something out of nothing… I’ve never been afraid to take a chance and it’s gotten me far.”
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