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Andre Heckle Jr
- Background and origin story
- Entrepreneur since age 16–17, starting with service-based lead generation.
- Built an agency with co-founders Dan and Christian, scaling to $100K/month.
- Hit a scaling ceiling and partnered with Daniel Fio (C Wizard) to launch a coaching program (Client Ascension) teaching cold email lead generation.
- Launched a productized service (manual lead fulfillment) to validate demand, pricing, and turnaround time before building software.
- After burning tens of thousands of dollars on developers and designers with no shipped product, nearly gave up.
- Connected with a student, Oliver, who joined as a co-founder and helped rebuild and relaunch.
- Pivotal moments and turning points
- Shifted from manual productized service to a self-serve SaaS (ListKit) to solve verification and usability gaps in cold email lead tools.
- Rebuilt the product in 87 days and relaunched, leveraging an existing list of paying customers from coaching, agency, and productized service.
- Shared the full company story publicly (tweets, calls, emails), creating momentum that drove rapid early adoption.
- Business growth, current status, or exit details (only if discussed)
- Reached $1M ARR within 87 days of launch.
- Approaching $200K MRR as of June 2024, on track to surpass $2.4M ARR.
- Grew to over 1,500 paying customers within almost a year (first 1,000 in six months).
- Background and origin story
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Products and Offerings
- Core product(s) and what each one does
- ListKit: a cold email SaaS that lets users find email addresses and send pitches to sell services, book podcasts, or generate leads.
- Designed for salespeople, business owners, freelancers, and solopreneurs.
- Pricing starts at $97/month, with higher tiers for enterprise users based on credits.
- Supporting tools, side projects, or experiments mentioned
- Client Ascension: coaching program teaching cold email lead generation.
- Agency services: manual lead generation and fulfillment.
- Productized service: manual lead delivery with fast turnaround to validate the idea before building software.
- Core product(s) and what each one does
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Metrics and Financials
- Revenue figures, user counts, and financial milestones
- $1M ARR achieved in 87 days post-launch.
- Over 1,500 paying customers within the first year.
- Approaching $200K MRR as of June 2024.
- Software costs and resource efficiency
- Team cost over $100K/month total.
- Total spend on ads, marketing, and acquisition ranges from $150K to $175K/month.
- Exit or acquisition specifics (if explicitly stated)
- No exit or acquisition discussed.
- Revenue figures, user counts, and financial milestones
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Strategy and Growth
- Overall vision and positioning
- Build SaaS only after validating demand and pricing via productized service.
- Compete by identifying proven incumbents (e.g., Apollo, ZoomInfo), then fixing key pain points (e.g., unverified leads).
- Primary growth engine or method
- Cold email to target customers who need leads.
- Paid ads to scale after reaching initial traction.
- Content marketing, affiliates, and leveraging existing ecosystem (coaching, agency).
- Key tactics, channels, or strategic steps
- Offer 50 free leads via cold email as a lead magnet to demonstrate value before selling the product.
- Use a setup offer with ads to onboard customers into a working cold email system.
- Test ~20 ad creatives weekly (static images and video variants).
- Avoid free trials; use a money-back guarantee to filter buyers and collect payment upfront.
- Conduct 1:1 onboarding calls with every new customer to understand needs, reduce churn, and guide product improvements.
- Overall vision and positioning
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Tech Stack and Infrastructure
- Tools, platforms, and technical approaches referenced
- No specific tools or platforms named in the transcript.
- Notable technical decisions, trade-offs, or architecture choices
- Chose manual fulfillment for the productized service to validate the idea and preserve cash before building.
- Prioritized speed and cost efficiency in early development by reusing existing agency processes.
- Tools, platforms, and technical approaches referenced
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Lessons and Advice
- Direct advice given to other founders
- Validate demand and pricing with a productized service before building SaaS.
- Build a co-founder team with complementary skills (marketing, sales, technology, leadership).
- Align on vision and core values with co-founders; expect and resolve debates like any relationship.
- Talk to customers consistently to keep churn low and guide product and support improvements.
- Hard-won insights and key takeaways
- Entrepreneurship is a long consistency game; keep inputs high regardless of short-term outputs.
- Invest daily in personal development and learn from those who have already achieved results.
- Hire cost-efficient global talent for roles like development and customer success to maintain profitability.
- Direct advice given to other founders
I Built A $1M SaaS In 87 Days
Starter Story • • 19min • #39